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I think she looked "racier" with the white topside, but still a nice boat to own
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Wensley Haydon Baillie, who is not a professor, bought "Mercury as she was then from Roberto Memmo, an Italian businessman, in 1978. Brave Challenger as she became was always fitted with auxiliary engines for manoeuvring. As a matter of fact there was a high court case in the late nineties which cocerned a mortgage raised against the boat but it was certainly not Peter de Savary who was involved in this. There has been a deal, I understand with Sea Containers to secure the Proteus turbines from the Dover based hovercraft.
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I can well understand Pioneer's confusion over this boat, some time ago I asked for info on this vessel via the small craft group because as a retired marine engineer I was interested in how they fitted the C.O.D.O.G. propulsion (in what is a not very broad hull at  the stern) bearing in mind there was also a requirement for decent sized cabin's rather than multi-occupancy messdecks as the Andrew would have. Very kindly a chap called Mr Jago sent me a copy of an article which appered in "Boat International"  Sept 93 regarding "Brave Challenger", when I read the article the inference is clearly there indicating she was a former "Brave Class" boat which had been stripped out and refitted as a motor yacht, this puzzled me as she clearly looked like a boat I had seen before called "Mercury". Unless Mr Livaneos? a great rival in the shipping world of Mr O had one also built this was surely the same boat, after consulting Phil Simons it was indeed "Mercury", certainly the article I have is very misleading and where the Reporter got their info from I will leave people to draw their own conclusions.
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        Brave Challenger/ Mercury, is on the outer berth at Saxon Wharf Marina River Itchen. as of sat 22/7.

                    John.A.
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A very recent image taken of 'Brave Challenger' (April '09)

I do believe that her earlier paint scheme suited her far better - but of course that is only an opinion.


Edited by Pioneer - 22 April 2009 at 9:23am
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Have they overhauled her yet, anybody know? she was due to have her G.T's "re-booted" Still one hell of a boat.
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You will find her story if you look at the section of the forum dealing with the Brave Class. She was built, as you will see as the yacht Mercury and although her name has been changed to Brave Challrnger she has never been HMS. She was lying looking rather delapidated at Saxon Wharf.
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Hello,
 
Many thanks for this most interesting update on her, pity now as you say, looking delapidated, fate of so many of course, costs etc of keeping such craft up, when, I know, you can buy a plastic vessel with a lot less "hassle" attached,
 
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I worked for a fellow that owned this superyacht. It may fill in a hole or two in the conversation.
His name was Ian Stuart and he owned the challenger around the late 1990s early 2000. I have a pamphlet of the ship still that show pictures and details of the interior and specifcations including Equipment list. Ian used the craft to run guests to "No Man's Land Fort" in the English Channel, which he also owned. This is an armour plated fort, built during Queen Victoria's reign to withstand the French and is now a hotel. Ian also owned the Hastings Pier for a while. This may be were things went bad for him and he had to sell the Challenger as the pier started to crumble and was taken over (legally) by Council.
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Ian Stuart came to an arrangement with Wensley H-B but I understand never owned B - Challenger during a time when, for one reason or another it suited both of themo
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