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S-130 restoration progress

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Topic: S-130 restoration progress
Posted By: gunther
Subject: S-130 restoration progress
Date Posted: 08 October 2007 at 6:04pm
I recently saw the podcast of the S-130 being towed to the UK from Germany for restoration in 2003.  As a designer of high-speed craft I would really like to know more about these boats and am interested to know if the boat is already restored and where it is now.  The pictures I saw show a completely different superstructure on the boat compared to the original.  Are there any other schnellbote around that are in original condition?




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Best Regards

Gunther



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Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 08 October 2007 at 7:41pm

Hello 'Gunther'

Welcome aboard. The story of S130 can be found elsewhere on this site but the 'pod cast' that you mention - of the Tow to the UK - was of the Hull. The superstructure, having been altered many times since his/her war time career, originally was of the armoured 'citadel' type, and what you saw was a dummy 'rendition'. Today the S130 is still awaiting funding for a planned restoration at Cremyll in Cornwall UK - the craft having being moved out of the Trust's care.

Although I have no photographic proof - I am told that an S-boote is out in the Med - a Forum member having seen it cruising around the Greek Islands - any further news would be most welcome.



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Posted By: marksaab
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 10:19am

"Although I have no photographic proof - I am told that an S-boote is out in the Med - a Forum member having seen it cruising around the Greek Islands - any further news would be most welcome."

An S boat in the Med...crikey..someone better tell Geoffrey Searle!!

Just finished his book "At Sea Level" great read.

Those pod casts are good...the noise from one of the prop bearings during to tow was incredible!! 

I guess you have looked here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-boat - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-boat

The link to "Prinz Eugen" is now dead, that site had lots of good S Boat info, there is definatly a complete boat in Germany, not sure where.



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Only yield when you must, never "give up the ship," but fight on to the last "with a stiff upper lip!"


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 17 February 2008 at 11:25pm

Hi all,

 

Further to the above also wondering if any news re S130? I know not now anything to do with the BMPT but just interested, also any news re CMTB 331? also now with EISCA, be great in my opinion to see both craft restored, one of ours and one of thiers so to speak!.

Johnk



Posted By: wheelspanner
Date Posted: 14 May 2008 at 10:43am
What has happened with S130 as I understand Harry Wheatcroft has bought/been given?"him".


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 16 May 2008 at 7:24pm
Hello,
 
First post on the "new" forum, just been reading the free All at Sea paper http://www.allatsea.co.uk - www.allatsea.co.uk  in the marina office and seen article on S130 saying some 3 million was going to be spent on her restoration over three years by Kevin Wheatcroft the owner! well, I know some may not like it, mentions her taking part shall we say in the Slapton Sands attack but... would be good to see say CMB 331 done which was handed over or....now for 3 million or perhaps less how about a replica D! I know, I know but how about that and the S130 running along! dare I say along with others, now that would be a site.
 
Johnk


Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 16 May 2008 at 7:56pm
There is some excellent news on the S130 - go to http://www.s130.co.uk - www.s130.co.uk
Very interesting.


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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 17 May 2008 at 8:30am
Hi there,
 
Indeed, just been onto the site, all very interesting stuff, quite a day to get her lifted out. As I said, I don't mind her being done but hope that it may inspire efforts to restore and run British vessels, excepting of course the ones already up and running MTB 102 and Medusa, 
 
Johnk 


Posted By: wheelspanner
Date Posted: 25 May 2008 at 1:38pm
German vessels are He's not she's/ her john, I go along with your desire to see more  effort on British Coastal Forces vessels but if it is true as indicated in another part of the Forum that B.M.P.T. is no longer a Charity who is the legal owner of 1502?


Posted By: wheelspanner
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 5:01pm
from reading elsewhere it appears to be an administration error in regards to BMPT charity status


Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 31 May 2008 at 9:26pm

Just to clear things up - on this thread at least - the bmpt IS still a Charity, the Charity number changed and 'Everyclick.com' did not notice and presumed that the Charity status had lapsed - Not So!!



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Posted By: wheelspanner
Date Posted: 02 June 2008 at 7:40am
Hello pioneer, the reason why I asked about the status of BMPT and the "ownership" of 1502 is because I have a Customer who is interested in purchasing a DECENTLY restored classic boat like 1502 if she was made available, for Classic Boat events.


Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 02 June 2008 at 2:46pm
Hello 'wheelspanner'
I would suggest that you contact 'Richard' by 'PM'
Rgds


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Posted By: BlueLancer
Date Posted: 31 January 2009 at 7:53pm
Hi All,
        Just saw S130 on todays news on the BBC all be it at 0630hrs. Only a few minutes but interesting must have been a slow news day. Should still be available on BBC News web site. Best of luck with  the restoration, I hope you do not have the same problems that an american did restoring a Japanese Zero, it kept getting sabotaged.
 
Yours aye
BlueLancer


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Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 31 January 2009 at 8:53pm
Hello 'BlueLancer'
Yes I saw that interview - some of the story can be seen at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/7828217.stm - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/7828217.stm
I do applaud the effort (and expence) that Mr Kevin Wheatcroft and his associates are putting into this project - well done to them - but I do get a little niggley when so called 'facts' are spouted about the 'Exercise Tiger' tragedy.
In the interview, it was quoted  (by the interviewer - not Mr Wheatcroft) that 10 times the casualties of the actual landing on 'Utah' beach head were experienced in this 'attack' - Not so! - it can be found, with a little research, that the casualty figure for the Utah landing was in the region of 240 - This may appear a little pedantic - but these 'facts' distort the tragedy for any future students of History. By not even giving a mention of the beach head shelling by the RN and USN - where an unknown number of casualties fell - (these were real people too!), this very successful attack on a relatively smaller 'follow up' convoy has taken the spotlight away from culpable (in my opinion) Staff Officers of both Navy's. 


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Posted By: BlueLancer
Date Posted: 01 February 2009 at 7:25pm
Couldn't agree more the BBC used to be known for its factual content, do they still use researchers?. They seem to go more for sensation than truth, but the truth will out, when you have knowledgable people keeping an eye on them.
 
yours aye
BlueLancer 


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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 02 February 2009 at 10:14am
Hello there,
 
Yes, saw that this news item was posted on thier web-site, confess did not rise to see it, assumned would be on the web-later, indeed they should Pioneer get thier facts correct, do hope no one interferres with the project.
 
JohnK


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 30 August 2009 at 10:27pm
Hi there,
 
Got back yesterday from seeing S130 at Southdown in Cornwall, quite a trip in a day! I meet with the chief shipwright John Owles and Keving Wheatcroft the owner, quite a set up I have to say, and althoug I know not perhaps popular with everyone which I can understand, he is walking the walk so to speak and putting up his money. Believe in fact though would need this confirmned, that the heritage lottery fund is putting up monies to buy the MGB 81 and HLS 102, this was allueded to by the PNBPT in the papers we got before the BMPT merged. Well, better than the bonfire the owner was threatning, although perhaps a ploy, which seems to have worked I guess. Also of course the ongoing work to run and restore MTB 102 and Medusa, the above in know way diminishes my admiration and has to be said, minimal direct support, they to are walking the walk for our coastal forces heritage.
 
Johnk


Posted By: marksaab
Date Posted: 16 November 2009 at 5:42pm
Hey I got my S130 membership pack today!!!

Well it took its time (a few months actually!) but today I got my membership package!

Key fob, pen, sticker and certificate.

Now I just have to find the time to pop down and try to see her, no updates on the S-130 website for a while so hope its all going ok.


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Only yield when you must, never "give up the ship," but fight on to the last "with a stiff upper lip!"


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 18 November 2009 at 8:25am
Hi Mark,
 
Well, that's good it came through eventually but can be a bit off putting such a delay, worth a trip down as myself and John of Velo 2 did, very interesting, as you say, updates last I looked a bit thin on the ground, must be busy doing the restoration!..
 
Johnk


Posted By: marksaab
Date Posted: 19 November 2009 at 12:19pm
Hi John

Yes it was a bit late, no worries though!

Website site updates are bit slow but fingers crossed they are making progress.

Given the current economic times it's pretty amazing that the/any project is still ongoing!

If your planning another visit i'd like to come along.

Mark


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Only yield when you must, never "give up the ship," but fight on to the last "with a stiff upper lip!"


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 9:39am
Hi Mark,
 
Yes, indeed not going to be cheap, updates coming through for October though, interesting pictures of her being handed over, no plans for a return anytime soon, but certainly keeping an eye on her, all the best,
 
Johnk


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 16 August 2010 at 9:10am
Saw the tail end of another bit on S130 on the Friday BBC News at 1800 hours, can't get a replay though on the i-player,  to do with the pictures they have of the hand over of the vessel in 1943, people working away on her, hope not just for the cameras! per problems with Donnington Park which Mr Wheatcroft is involved with, the museum bit I believe though, no update on the site for a while, albeit I think there was the sad loss of Mr Wheatcroft SNR last year,
 
Johnk


Posted By: burgundyben
Date Posted: 09 December 2011 at 10:23am
No update on the s130 website for a long time, is the project still going on? Anyone know?

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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 10 December 2011 at 3:44pm
Hi there,
 
Well, on http://www.s30.co.uk - www.s30.co.uk and look under Roving commissions, they have an update for the 22/11/11 but can't actually identify what has been updated that recently......believe the project still moves forward though.
 
Johnk


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 12 January 2015 at 10:12am
Hi there,

Well, time flies, see my last post above in 2011.....well just seen on BBC on-line news, talking about operation Tiger, and also about S130 and her ongoing restoration, item seems to have dropped of the page now, but if you do a search under Slapton Sans, top right book, it comes up as first item, article dated though 10th so guess that's why it has dropped out but very interesting....

Johnk


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 12 January 2015 at 10:13am
sorry typo should read Slapton Sands....



Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 12 January 2015 at 11:52am
The latest article from the BBC can be seen at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-27312953" rel="nofollow - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-27312953
Pity that it does not mention the first phase of the disaster - ie the Allied shelling of the practise beach head.

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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 12 January 2015 at 12:31pm
Hi there,

Many thanks for this, direct of course to the article rather than my convoluted way, ah I to did not know that......as per great progress on MTB 219, so great to see more CF craft being saved, just had latest All at Sea paper delivered to the marina, and heads up on Gosport show with people standing on the bow of Medusa....thanks again,

Johnk


Posted By: alexis lambert
Date Posted: 31 December 2017 at 8:45pm
Any news on this boat?  Cant find anything.  Is it viewable?


Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 03 January 2018 at 8:38am
Hi there,

Ah, welcome on board, by shear coincidence I have a book on WW2 German vessels, with some pics of E and R boats, I am dispatching to Kevin Wheatcroft for his interest....but no, I have not heard anything else re S130 of late.....they did run all the episodes of Combat Dealers on Quest the other day, and two had her featured....but as I say, nothing feared, be great to know for sure, all the best,

Johnk



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