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Christian
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Topic: Royal Canadian Navy FairmilesPosted: 28 February 2006 at 7:35pm |
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Top to bottom; RCN ML ? La Santa Maria IV in Canada,RCN ML ? Zeus II at Greece,RCN ML 120 Maryland Independence at USA,RCN ML 128 Gulfstream II at British Columbia,RCN ML 071 Kona Winds at British Columbia,RCN ML ? at Port Dover Ontario,RCN ML 118 Franlis II (note-should read Franlis III) at Ostend,RCN ML 105 DucDorleans St Claire River,Canada.Six others are known to survive. Thanks to Phil Simons for source data and all the photographers who have graciously allowed their work to be used in this non profit educational forum. Edited by Christian |
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Posted: 17 July 2006 at 5:44pm |
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RCN Fairmile "B's": Where they are:
1. Santa Maria IV: ex-Q-096; ex-Roseline, Miss Kingston. Possibly now in Bermuda or Caribbean. Last Cdn. registered to Oct. 2004. 2. Zeus II - this is probably an ex-RN Fairmile; they used same Q numbers from 100 to 129 (last RCN number) No record of that name in Canadian files. 3. Maryland Independemce, ex-Q-120; Now owned by Paul W. Davies of Hagerstown, MD, USA "for recreational use" Bought on E-bay from Maryland State Gov't. 4. Gulfstream II, ex Q-128. Burned and sank Pendel Sound, B.C., 18 Dec.'55. Register closed 18 Jan.'56 5. Kona Winds, ex Q-071. Still in service in B.C., registered to 30 June '08. Bruse Kerr, Vancouver. 6. ML at Port Dover: this is likely ex-ML Q-051, under rebuilding at Naticoke, Ont.. Register closed 1988, and owner living aboard, but unlikely to be finished or re-registered. 7. Franlis II: another ML likely to be an ex-RN one. Name Franlis III appears on some Canadian lists, but dubious. Franlis III became Inshore Fisherman, scrapped in 1972 8. Duc d'Orleans: ex Q-105. No longer registered, up for sale by owner in Sarnia, Ont. Ken Bracewell. |
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Posted: 17 July 2006 at 6:32pm |
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Hello Fraser,I'm glad someone came to play,this is an interesting subject.Many thanks for your updates,however you may be incorrect regarding Gulfstream II,she is currently advertised on the internet for weddings etc.charters,see http://modena.intergate.ca/business/boat/ The other survivors I refer to are Lahaina Lady ex Saracen III ex ML 070(purchased by John Boyd April 2003,out of ferry service,now at Campbell River Vancouver Island BC),Saint-Louis IV ex ML 097 possibly,Casa Mia ex ML 069,Radell II ex Radar Vessel ex ML 051(now identified,thanks) and Pacific Gold ex PTC724 Elk ex ML 124 (the sixth was Penetang 88,I now know she is no longer).Perhaps you would let us know the fates of these boats also,and if you could post the missing boat's pictures that would be really great.My friend Philip Simons the Coastal Forces historian has Zeus II and Franlis III listed as ex-RCN(the RN/RCN Fairmile B pennant Nos overlap runs from 112-129),I'll ask him what led him to that conclusion and let you know.I have Inshore Fisherman as ex ML 121 B/U 1972,and Franlis III as ex ML 118 at Ostend in August 2005,both pennant No's ex RCN not RN.
RN Fairmile B ML 118 post-war as AEC demo craft Marandis (later Crin-Bleu at Cannes),note removal of spray rails aft.
Franlis III at Ostend,believed to be ex RCN ML 118,note spray rails still in position so very unlikely to be ex RN ML 118. Regards,Christian. Excellent pages of photos of Franlis III; http://www.ibiblio.org/maritime/photolibrary/thumbnails.php? album=781 Her homepage http://sunships.be/asvers.htm her owner apparently believes her to be ex Royal Navy,can anyone read Belgian (Flemish?)to get more info? Edited by Christian |
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Posted: 18 July 2006 at 2:45am |
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Christian: The problem with the RCN's Fairmiles is connecting the Navy's Q- No. with the Dept, of Transports first registration. Here's the further comments:
1. FRANLIS II: Sold in '46/'47 to Francis Farwell of Hamilton, Ont. for $3,000, records say as FRANLIS III, but this could be a record error. No further Cdn. records, so the Belgian one may be her. 2. GULFSTREAM - quite right - I looked at the wrong record. 3. RADELL II, ex Q-051. This seems to be the rather derelict ML at Naticoke under possible (but unlikely!) restoration. You had a photo #6 above. Owner: Drew Baird. Registration expired in Nov. '04 4. CASA MIA, ex Q-069. Owner in 1973 was Bounty Cruises Ltd. Registry closed. Reportedly registered in Suva. 5. LAHAINA LADY: Your records are right. Owners John & Karen Boyd. I talked to them in late 2005. In service. 6. PENETANG 88: became OLYMPIA III, for use at World's Fair in Montreal in 1967, but registration refused, became derelict, given or sold to Sea Cadets at Hamilton, Ont., then a diver, for possible (unlikely) restoration. I travelled in her when she was a ferry/local supply ship in Georgian Bay in 1960's. SAINT LOUIS: No.177159, ex Q-096. As SAINT LOUIS only briefly. Ex MISS KINGSTON, ROSALINE. Became LA SANTA MARIA IV in 1985. May still be in service in Bermuda or Caribbean. 7. PACIFIC GOLD: ex- Q-124. Ex Naval Reserves' ELK, then TEIRRAH, #312819. Sold foreign sometime between 1980 and 1997 - probably Greece. Is this maybe your ZEUS II?? I don't collect any photos (live now in a condo, with little room!), but Marc-Andre Morin, 3341 du Gaspereau, Ste.-Foy, Quebec, Canada, G1W 2N3 (marc-andre.morin@videotron.ca) has a lot, and we've co-operated on our listings. Fraser |
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Posted: 18 July 2006 at 8:02am |
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Hi Fraser,superb information,many thanks.So Saint-Louis was 096 not 097,that clears up a mystery and identifies La Santa Maria's history nicely.Philip certainly lists both Zeus and Pacific Gold,the former is currently in greece and the latter was spotted there in Dec 1997(at Zea Marina I think) See "The Scanner" for the report on Olympia III's sinking 20th March 1975,20th paragraph down; http://www.hhpl.on.ca/GreatLakes/Documents/Scanner/07/08/def ault.asp?ID=c003 I have e-mailed this forum page to Marc-Andre. Regards,Christian. Edited by Christian |
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Posted: 24 July 2006 at 8:40pm |
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Hello All Have been in touch with Marc-Andre Morin and Philip Simons and can now confirm: Franlis III is indeed ex RCN ML-118(Philip) The sixth boat down on original posting is Corniche at Port Dover,not Radell II(Marc's photo collection) Duc D'Orleans may be taken over by the Halifax Naval Museum for restoration to original appearance.She was given her attractive conversion by Marc-Andre's family in 1948(Marc) It is highly unlikely but not impossible that Zeus II is ex-Pacific Gold,comparing the pictures the conversion would have had to be most extensive including removing the rectangular portholes aft and replacing the original configuration(Marc's photo collection) Other hereto unmentioned survivors are:La Marie-Jo ex-052,Earlmar ex-066,Miss Linda ex-068,Tzigane ex-087,Sogno D'Oro ex-122,Princess Malibu ex-126 and Corniche which was 089.(Marc)
Corniche
La Marie-Jo as Cyrius
Lahaina Lady(will soon be Noble Lady)
Pacific Gold
Radell II As you can see,some of the surviving boats are still hiding from Marc-Andre's superb collection,he asks that we all try to find pictures of Earlmar,Miss Linda and Tzigane (and Pacific Gold,and indeed any other ex RCN Fairmiles). Regards,Christian.
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Posted: 06 August 2006 at 10:32pm |
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Ex RCN ML 102 as Moondance in Florida in 1998.She is now called Enterprise II.
EX RCN ML 122 as Malibu Tyee.She is now called Sogno D'Oro.
EX RCN ML 126 Princess Malibu.She still survives also,probably much altered.
EX RCN ML 124 Pacific Gold last spotted Zea Marina Piraeus 1997.Courtesy Philip Simons. Moondance pic from Aquayachts website.Other pics and info from Marc-Andre Morin. Edited by Christian |
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Posted: 07 August 2006 at 2:43am |
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So ZEUS II is for sure ex-PACIFIC GOLD? Also then ex-
Q-124, built by Vancouver Shipyards. Nice - and rare - up-date. Still have a problem tracking backwards the ML at Nanticoke "under restoration", and as of last summer there was no Fairmile at Port Dover, and locals there didn't know of any. Had lunch in a ship restaurant, not a Fairmile. An ex-tug from Toronto (Captain John's 2nd vessel) was supposedly there one time, but no longer. |
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Posted: 07 August 2006 at 8:23am |
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Hi Fraser Re Nanticoke restoration,sorry can't help.This was your info. Re Zeus II and Pacific Gold-I don't think so.It is not impossible though.I think the only rare update for you guys concerns Franlis III courtesy of Philip Simons. Corniche was at Port Dover in 2005,contact the very helpful Paul Beesley at shiphotos@hotmail.com to confirm.He pictured her as a rotting Fairmile at a place called "The Junkyard".He may know whether she is still there. Regards,Christian. |
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Ran accross the following regading the Duc d'Orlean in Sarnia. After 27 years of cruising the St Clair River, the Duc D'Orleans is to be retired. Co-owner Sherry Bracewell says it was a hard decision but one that had to be made. Her husband Ken is enroute to Sarnia from Rhode Island on the Duc-2. The original Duc, Bracewell says is a smaller vessel than its replacement which will accomocate 200 passengers. Five years ago the Halifax Naval Museum expressed an interest in the former war vessel. Bracewell is hoping the Duc's final resting spot will be there. The transition has forced a delay in the annual CHOK Senior's Cruise to July 7th. If this does happen she could become a sister to the HMCS Sackville the "last Corvette". 2006-06-02 Edited by K225 |
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She'd roll on wet grass!
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