Identification Parade

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   I am a nautical archeaologist who has an interest in a wreck found in the River Tay, Scotland. It is alleged to be a WW2 ex US Torpedo Recovery Vessel that serviced the River Clyde during the war colecting practice torpedoes.  I would like to identify this vessel which is now just a hull and perhaps investigate its war history. The big problem is trying to ascertain whether it was an MTB, MGB, Patrol Boat, or some other auxiliary vessel. I don't know whether it was built in the US or the UK but the last owner has stated it was built circa 1940's. Its length is 64'3" and beam 18'9". It had a shallow draft and from chine to deck is about 13'.  I have a few photos to help recognition. I personally am pretty stumped and would welcome any suggestions. I would be welcome to share these photos. Please contact me by email to obtain photos. 
Thanks for your attentiopn and hopefully contructive assistance. 
Bob Ross
Nautical Archeaologist

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Caledonian Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 11 October 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote Caledonian Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Identification Parade Posted: 11 October 2006 at 6:25pm
	I am a nautical archeaologist who has an interest in a wreck found in the River Tay, Scotland. It is alleged to be a WW2 ex US Torpedo Recovery Vessel that serviced the River Clyde during the war colecting practice torpedoes. I would like to identify this vessel which is now just a hull and perhaps investigate its war history. The big problem is trying to ascertain whether it was an MTB, MGB, Patrol Boat, or some other auxiliary vessel. I don't know whether it was built in the US or the UK but the last owner has stated it was built circa 1940's. Its length is 64'3" and beam 18'9". It had a shallow draft and from chine to deck is about 13'. I have a few photos to help recognition. I personally am pretty stumped and would welcome any suggestions. I would be welcome to share these photos. Please contact me by email to obtain photos. Thanks for your attentiopn and hopefully contructive assistance. Bob Ross Nautical Archeaologist
	Robert G. Ross

Caledonian Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 11 October 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote Caledonian Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 October 2006 at 6:34pm
	I didn't realise I could post photos so here are the pics I have to share. I look forward to your counsel. Bob Ross
	Robert G. Ross

dgray Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 24 November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 580	Post Options Post Reply Quote dgray Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 October 2006 at 10:42pm
	Hi Bob, If you have higher resolution photos, I can upload them for you so the detail may be clearer. If you want me to, please email to don@rania.co.uk and I'll be happy to. I thought she might be a GP Pinnace but the beam is very wide. I'm sure somebody will know. Regards
	Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame?

Caledonian Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 11 October 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote Caledonian Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 October 2006 at 8:18pm
	Hi Don, Thanks for your thoughts, I will try to send the photos off to you in the next day or so. I am also trying to get a photo of the stern view which might make a difference to identification. Thansk for the contact, Ill be in touch soon. I too am sure someone will know. Bob
	Robert G. Ross

dgray Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 24 November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 580	Post Options Post Reply Quote dgray Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 October 2006 at 1:00pm
	3 more detailed shots of the wreck found in the River Tay, Scotland. I hope they make ID easier.
	Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame?

Christian Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 17 June 2005 Location: Gibraltar Status: Offline Points: 775	Post Options Post Reply Quote Christian Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 October 2006 at 5:29pm
	Hi Don It may be a Seaplane Tender... B Rgds,Christian.

dgray Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 24 November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 580	Post Options Post Reply Quote dgray Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 October 2006 at 5:54pm
	No, a stretched Derby surely ....lol Cheers
	Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame?

Christian Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 17 June 2005 Location: Gibraltar Status: Offline Points: 775	Post Options Post Reply Quote Christian Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 October 2006 at 10:36pm
	That'd make her a steeplechase... Seriuosly though, I reckon maybe a HLD, am awaiting feedback from Philip once we've got an aft view for him to confirm. All the best, Christian.

jimmy p Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 26 September 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 283	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimmy p Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 January 2007 at 5:18pm
	Is it the black pearl?
	A boat is a hole in the water surrounded by wood, into which one throws money