MTB 494

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Goodday to you all,

This is my first post here. Since the beginning of this year I have refound my childhood hobby, modelling. Instead of just buying a kit I like and building that I wanted to build a little piece of history.
On the internet I found a story about one of the final battles of the second world war. A group of German E-Boats from the 2. Schnellbootsflotille was intercepted by a three boats of the 22nd MTB flottile (MTB 493, 494 & 497). At a certain point in the battle the MTB 494 was rammed by the S-176 and sunk, killing al but three of the crew. The S-176 could not get back to port and was scuttled by the crew in the Northsea.

I bought a Revell 1:72 scale Schnellboot and have been building this for some time. I am building it according to the specifications that the S-176 had. 
(picture: http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b355/Jeronimuz/?action=view&current=SNC00105.jpg)

 Now I would like to build the MTB 494 and put them on display together. I bought the Airfix Vosper kit, thinking this would be the right one.
Luckily, before I started building someone on the Axix History Forum pointed out to me that it is not the right design. The MTB 494 was a British Powerboat Co design built in Hythe in 1943.

A link to the topic: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=165783

I would like to try to convert the model to the proper specifications. I have some photo material of the actual MTB 494 but could use some help on the differences between the Vosper and the British Powerboat Co design. I hope you can point me in the right direction.

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JeroenV Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 09 November 2010 Location: The Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote JeroenV Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: MTB 494 Posted: 09 November 2010 at 11:36am
	Goodday to you all, This is my first post here. Since the beginning of this year I have refound my childhood hobby, modelling. Instead of just buying a kit I like and building that I wanted to build a little piece of history. On the internet I found a story about one of the final battles of the second world war. A group of German E-Boats from the 2. Schnellbootsflotille was intercepted by a three boats of the 22nd MTB flottile (MTB 493, 494 & 497). At a certain point in the battle the MTB 494 was rammed by the S-176 and sunk, killing al but three of the crew. The S-176 could not get back to port and was scuttled by the crew in the Northsea. I bought a Revell 1:72 scale Schnellboot and have been building this for some time. I am building it according to the specifications that the S-176 had. (picture: http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b355/Jeronimuz/?action=view&current=SNC00105.jpg) Now I would like to build the MTB 494 and put them on display together. I bought the Airfix Vosper kit, thinking this would be the right one. Luckily, before I started building someone on the Axix History Forum pointed out to me that it is not the right design. The MTB 494 was a British Powerboat Co design built in Hythe in 1943. A link to the topic: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=165783 I would like to try to convert the model to the proper specifications. I have some photo material of the actual MTB 494 but could use some help on the differences between the Vosper and the British Powerboat Co design. I hope you can point me in the right direction.

Christian Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 17 June 2005 Location: Gibraltar Status: Offline Points: 775	Post Options Post Reply Quote Christian Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 November 2010 at 7:14pm
	Hi Jeroen I am cdsc123 on the other forum, it was me who posted the warning. The two boats are totally different, I think it would be easier to start with a scratch build and not use the Airfix kit (the kit will be a good donor of armaments and fittings though). The hull could be carved from balsa and the bridge made from plasticard. Otherwise I expect a card model of the BPB MTB may be available soon from; http://cfp.muerell.de/

JeroenV Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 09 November 2010 Location: The Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote JeroenV Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 November 2010 at 8:51am
	Hi Christian, The modelbuilding world is a small one isn't it? :) I have no experience whatsoever in scratchbuilding models. But, there is a first time for everything right? I think the CFP model would be a great help, I can blow it up to 1/72 proportions and use the parts as a template for the plasticard. Do you have a high-res version of the picture in your post? I will first finish the S-176 Schnellboot before starting on this project. I wil probably have a lot of questions and will need some help and advise here. I will keep this topic updated with text and pictures. Thanks so far!

Christian Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 17 June 2005 Location: Gibraltar Status: Offline Points: 775	Post Options Post Reply Quote Christian Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 November 2010 at 6:24pm
	Hi Jeroen The plans (in 1/24th I think) are from here; http://www.lambert-plans.com/encom/ships_fast_boats.htm CFP do not yet have this MTB available, try contacting Horst to see if he will do one; info@cfp.muerell.de

JeroenV Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 09 November 2010 Location: The Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote JeroenV Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 November 2010 at 8:56am
	Hi Christian (and other readers), I sent an e-mail to Horst form CFP yesterday and got a reply allready: Jeroen, thank you for your interest in my models. Unfortunately I have no model of a BPB boat and I'm not planning to do one. The only torpedo boats I have are the Vosper ones, an early version and a later version. Pictures of them you can see on my website. Perhaps you can use them as a guide for your model, because they were very similar. I wish you all the best for your modelling and a good success. If you have more questions, please ask me. Regards Horst Too bad, but the Lambert plans are worth lookin into! Thanks again!

iledeserk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 11 November 2010 Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote iledeserk Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 November 2010 at 9:58pm
	Hi, I'm new here and have John Lambert's BPB plans, they are brilliant, though I'm going to have to do a lot of work to reduce them to my preferred scale of 1/72nd as there's no plans services within 100k of where I live. I used his plans to scratch-build a 1940 Vosper Mtb hull, still working on it. I used plastic card to make a sort of egg crate of profile and sections, then planked it with more plastic strip, somewhere on the computer I have pictures... I'm baulked at the moment because I need a twin Oerlikon aft mount and am not sure how it was arranged. Meanwhile I'm building one of the Airfix rescue launches... Fraser

JeroenV Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 09 November 2010 Location: The Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote JeroenV Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 November 2010 at 11:48am
	Hi Fraser, Nice to hears someone is having the same challenge! If you have any photo's that would be great. Good luck!

iledeserk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 11 November 2010 Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote iledeserk Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 November 2010 at 4:02pm
	Here's a link to my photobucket album of the Vosper, as far as it's come. http://s1021.photobucket.com/albums/af335/seagull47/Vosper%2070/ You can get a pretty good idea of how I proceeded. Not horrifically difficult, but you do need to be as accurate with your cutting as possible. F