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   The world is full of Duff Info and right at the moment there is duff info on MTB102. Over the past week I have been fending off calls wanting to know why we are going to sell or break 102. This all stems from articles in the Southampton Daily Echo and the national Daily Mail. The claims made for a certain other 102 are causing the confusion as most know that MTB102 was the Dunkirk heroine and was fully involved with D Day. 
To put the record straight, MTB102 is not for sale. She cannot be sold as she belongs to herself. She is not going to be broken. She has never been fully restored. Most of what you see went to war. 
This winter she will be slipped, repaired, repainted and got ready for another season on the high seas. Hopefully she will be involved with the 65th Anniversary of D Day and in 2010 she will lead the "Fast fleet" to Dunkirk.
"We are not amused" is an understatement.
Richard Basey, Chairman MTB102 Trust. 

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Magic Fingers Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 19 March 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 113	Post Options Post Reply Quote Magic Fingers Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Duff Info Posted: 14 October 2008 at 9:59pm
	The world is full of Duff Info and right at the moment there is duff info on MTB102. Over the past week I have been fending off calls wanting to know why we are going to sell or break 102. This all stems from articles in the Southampton Daily Echo and the national Daily Mail. The claims made for a certain other 102 are causing the confusion as most know that MTB102 was the Dunkirk heroine and was fully involved with D Day. To put the record straight, MTB102 is not for sale. She cannot be sold as she belongs to herself. She is not going to be broken. She has never been fully restored. Most of what you see went to war. This winter she will be slipped, repaired, repainted and got ready for another season on the high seas. Hopefully she will be involved with the 65th Anniversary of D Day and in 2010 she will lead the "Fast fleet" to Dunkirk. "We are not amused" is an understatement. Richard Basey, Chairman MTB102 Trust.
	If it ain't broke don't fix it!

S R Wilson Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 08 December 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 170	Post Options Post Reply Quote S R Wilson Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 October 2008 at 10:28am
	Well said Richard. If people who should know better were to check their facts first there would be a lot less worry in this world. ood luck with the repairs. If you are short of crew for the trip in 2010 (or any other occasion) would be happy to lend a hand. I have only been on her once but she has left a lasting impresion.
	SRW "Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy" WSC.

Whitelady Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 30 June 2008 Location: Lowestoft Status: Offline Points: 75	Post Options Post Reply Quote Whitelady Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 October 2008 at 5:36pm
	The thought of MTB 102 being broken up is laughable in itself. typical media causing problems that are not there as per usual, I hope this doesn't cause any problems with the donations that you would normally receive throughout the year.

johnk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 March 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1355	Post Options Post Reply Quote johnk Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 October 2008 at 12:00am
	Hi Richard, Missed that one! you refer I think to HLS 102, laid up ashore I think for some time now, seen on the boat sales sites, great pity though if she is broken but have heard, I know duff info!, that she is suffering now with being on hard standing and the sun effecting the timbers, she along with MGB 81 is expoxy sheathed.....however long live M.T.B. 102 Johnk

dgray Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 24 November 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 580	Post Options Post Reply Quote dgray Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 October 2008 at 12:59am
	First, let me say I'm (bloody) glad that MTB102 is safe. However, does anyone know is happening to HSL102? I believe she was for sale for a lot of money until recently? For the record, I want them all to survive....
	Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame?

tramontana Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 April 2007 Status: Offline Points: 418	Post Options Post Reply Quote tramontana Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 October 2008 at 10:40am
	Whitelady, it is not only the "general" media who confuse the two, even the Navy News have published a picture of H.S.L. 102 in an article concerning ex R.N. M.T.B. 102, you would think they would know the difference. It would be tragic to break H.S.L. 102 there must be something seriously wrong with the hull, I can understand him removing the engines if he is a bit short of coin but to scrap what was/is a superb rebuild of a boat completely seems a bit severe. Out of the two of Phil's boat's, if I had to make a decision between the two I would elect keep the .H.S.L. as the more historic boat in my view but of course it is not my decision.

Christian Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 17 June 2005 Location: Gibraltar Status: Offline Points: 775	Post Options Post Reply Quote Christian Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 October 2008 at 7:32pm
	http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1073334/Desperate-plea-400-000-save-Launch-102--surviving-Dunkirk-boat.html

johnk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 March 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1355	Post Options Post Reply Quote johnk Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 October 2008 at 8:28pm
	Hi there, OK.......really not sure what to make of the above! thanks Christian for that, why not become a charitable trust? guess that would mean he would not get his money back, but suspect he never would, faint possiblity another person with loads of cash might but not likely. To simply break her up sounds extraodinary, bit of PR to try and sell? it was a good effort to restore her and MGB 81, albeit some question I know over methods used I believe. Well, would not be the first time vessels have been restored but then went to ruin. A Johnk

Magic Fingers Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 19 March 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 113	Post Options Post Reply Quote Magic Fingers Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 October 2008 at 9:23pm
	If you read that article then you should understand the problem. Even the ASR Association recognises that HSL102 was not at Dunkirk. RAF records show her at BPBs Hythe undergoing a major refit. RAF records also show that the only HSL involved with Dunkirk was HSL120. Even then there is doubt that 120 actually went to Dunkirk as she was only available on the 3rd June, the last day. The Association of Dunkirk Little Ships does not recognise HSL102 as a Dunkirk Little Ship. Why do the owners claim it to be one? Richard. Edited by Magic Fingers - 16 October 2008 at 9:29pm
	If it ain't broke don't fix it!

johnk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 March 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1355	Post Options Post Reply Quote johnk Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 October 2008 at 8:35am
	Hi Richard, Many thanks for that, indeed the article dose seem a bit off on the facts! JohnK