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   Hi there,

Glad to hear the meeting went well, despite all before I know, small sadness at the end of an eara but a better one to come. Many thanks,

Johnk

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johnk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 March 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1355	Post Options Post Reply Quote johnk Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 August 2009 at 1:17pm
	Hi there, Glad to hear the meeting went well, despite all before I know, small sadness at the end of an eara but a better one to come. Many thanks, Johnk

johnk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 March 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1355	Post Options Post Reply Quote johnk Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 August 2009 at 8:10am
	Hi there, Recieved the minuets of the last AGM and the pictures which was great, glad people turned out for the meeting, regret I could not due to prior engagment. Well, there it is, Southamptons loss and Portsmouths gain, but I think the vessels have found a good home, and I thank the board for all thier hard work over the years, and the other members for thier support of the trust. Great to see the free one year membership deal, especially for MTB 102, I hope that Newsons will become a centre for restoration of our historic coastal craft, which it really already is I guess, with work to Zeta and Humber. Any there it is, thanks again and lets look forward with these two craft plus of course 102 and Medusa coming soon. All the best Johnk

Nuthatch Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 22 June 2008 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 30	Post Options Post Reply Quote Nuthatch Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 October 2009 at 12:25am
	Hi all I have a few days free and was wondering what was the chances of coming down to visit Portsmouth? possibly the week end? Many thanks Nuthatch
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Pathfinder Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Pathfinder Joined: 06 December 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 91	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pathfinder Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 June 2010 at 10:05am
	Please note that the monthly news letters from PNBPT are shown under the "PNBPTrust" button on the front page. Events are shown under "Whats New" Richard
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John Cook Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 07 August 2009 Location: Canvey Island Status: Offline Points: 33	Post Options Post Reply Quote John Cook Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 August 2010 at 8:48pm
	Portsmouth, The Reality They have the boats - good boats, important boats, historic boats But they did not restore these boats, they did not shed their sweat and tears over these boats, they did not find these boats, often left in backwaters and mud flats, They do not deserve these boats In the time since The Property Developer has taken charge of these craft little has happened on the positive side, but a whole lot on the negative. As an example, RAF HSL 102 is probably the most beautiful vessel saved since the War, since she has moved to Portsmouth, I have crewed her three times. Within six days of us arriving with her, she had signs of minor damage on her deck. A couple of months later we took her to sea to Cast Ashes of one of her WW2 crew. She seemed in need of cleaning particularly in the engine room, I personally checked her filters and pumped out the bilges. I am now astonished to learn that three new openings have been made in her hull to allow for new filters, there is talk of having her repainted noitwithstanding the fact that her paintwork is in superb condition. Today one of my friends advised me that the craft will not be allowed at sea until the documentation has been upgraded. What on earth is happening to this great collection of SEA GOING VESSELS? I have one small sea going FP Launch, which has covered more miles in one month than the whole Portsmouth Collection.What a shame. John Cook

Magic Fingers Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 19 March 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 113	Post Options Post Reply Quote Magic Fingers Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 August 2010 at 10:15pm
	Surprise, surprise. Richard. PS. Today THE best looking boat has been sailing around the tankers anchored off the Suffolk Coast at great speed and enjoying every minute of it. She will probably do it again in a fortnight and then be off to Amsterdam for the Sail Amsterdam event. By the end of the Summer she will have clocked up about 1000mls mostly at sea. There are always places available in the crew but dreaming seems preferable to doing especially if it costs money. Edited by Magic Fingers - 01 August 2010 at 10:26pm
	If it ain't broke don't fix it!

John Cook Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 07 August 2009 Location: Canvey Island Status: Offline Points: 33	Post Options Post Reply Quote John Cook Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 August 2010 at 9:25am
	Dear Magic Fingers, I have said before and I will repeat 'till my tongue stiffens' that two of the Portsmouth 'bag' of boats, should have been offered to you, I now change that statement to THREE, since I am informed that the ML has been absorbed. Had that happened, I have no doubt that at least one of the beautifully restored craft would now be flying around the East Coast and Thames Estuary where they deserve to be. I may live to see the time when all of Portsmouth's new acquisitions will once again be sold off for houseboats or marina runabouts. A vast number of Lottery Money projects are unfinished or just abandoned by neglect. Just as in the case of Garth, every boat needs a hard and difficult Master who is every bit as important as the craft. Take that man away and replace him with a committee, and as the Bible says: the Racehourse will end up as a Camel. John Cook

johnk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 March 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1355	Post Options Post Reply Quote johnk Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 August 2010 at 7:14pm
	Hello, I am most conerned to hear about these vessels, a great chunk of HLF cash was secured, shall we say, to purchase them for the nation, and then read about thier treatment. I believe that Medusa is still under the Medusa Trust and is just berthed at Gunwharf Quays with the others, so dose have a dedicated group behind her, which is as you say Richard, essential and the only way such vessels can be cared for and run. I fear that despite the best intentions of the PNBPT they appear to have enough on thier plate, and having to shift to GWQ to look after them is not best. I note they also keep asking about triaining on the vessels, sure there must be plently of provision in the area, and would hope perhaps the qualified people aboard Medusa could help, but then they need to people willing to do it and run the vessels. But then the question of fuel, crewing, supplies all known to MTB 102 and Medusa of course. I think that the key again is not to have them in such a "collection" where attention has to be diluted amongst so much other work, we see that with the former collection of the now defunct Maritime Trust, the sailing barge Cambria and SS Robin, now restored or being restored by seperate and dedicated trusts. Johnk

johnk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 March 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1355	Post Options Post Reply Quote johnk Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 August 2010 at 7:24pm
	Hello again, Just read latest newsletter from historic boats section PNBPT and see all work "held" as they put it on MGB81 pending resolution of issues......dose that mean she is just sitting there un-attended, with such craft as of course we know, is just not the thing to do, at least weekly attendance to check condition, exterior lines and fenders and bilges etc. As per above and from their newsletter, I fear they simply have not the resources to care for these craft, let alone run them and we may see as you say, moves to lay up ashore. OK, I know, arm chair comments, am not in a position to take on such craft myself, am working on a "small" project albeit not a coastal forces craft in my defence, but aware dose not help the situation practically in this case. Johnk

Pathfinder Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Pathfinder Joined: 06 December 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 91	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pathfinder Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 August 2010 at 9:16pm
	Gentlemen, May I suggest that the facts are ascertained before conclusions are jumped to. There are issues being dealt with at this time, and I will make every effort to obtain an update as to the situation with regard to the group of boats in the care of PNBPT, and advise, in due course. Richard (H)
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