HMS Kellington

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Thanks Don for stepping forwards and explaining my comment re the tender. I didn’t feel it appropriate to say too much about the tender as its your private business. I try not to discus the business of others in public. 

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northeastuser Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 10 June 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 446	Post Options Post Reply Quote northeastuser Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 September 2007 at 8:33am
	Thanks Don for stepping forwards and explaining my comment re the tender. I didn’t feel it appropriate to say too much about the tender as its your private business. I try not to discus the business of others in public.

tramontana Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 April 2007 Status: Offline Points: 418	Post Options Post Reply Quote tramontana Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 September 2007 at 2:38pm
	neu, as wheelspanner said this page subject is about the kellington and I was under the same impression, I object strongly to a person telling me " don't be silly", all you had to say was that you were interested because you may want get another boat through but your comment was obviously a bit of "point scoring" because of my support of Clive shipping S32 around to England rather than attempting to sail it like you were proposing to do with the "Ambra" , I thought it was not only silly but downright dangerous bearing in mind your admitted lack of experience in boat repair and passage making, I had the good manners not to put my thoughts in print as this is not a forum to offend other members by calling them silly but to share experience of the danger's of water's obviously unknown to you when they genuinely thought they were helping you as with the kellington. Other members may not be fully aware of the kellington saga.

Pioneer Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Pioneer Joined: 07 December 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 675	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pioneer Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 September 2007 at 2:52pm
	Gentlemen I do think that further of this so called 'point scoring' should be made within the Private Messenger facility As I see it a 'statement' was made an 'answer' was given an 'apology' was made - surely, end of story? To continue with this bickering does not further any cause.
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northeastuser Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 10 June 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 446	Post Options Post Reply Quote northeastuser Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 September 2007 at 3:11pm
	In what way was telling me that a 150 odd foot vessel wont go through the locks next to the barrage as not insulting? don’t you think it would have been logical for the MOD to reclaim the kellington that way if possible? I’m sorry but I did not detect any element of help in insulting my intelligence. However I took it in good humour. Your answer that I would need a seaplane tender that floats and would be unlikely to get one could have also have been taken as insulting.(did that aply to me personaly or to everyone on teh planet?) However I realise that the written word does not convey expressions very well so just assumed it was an attempt at humour. Regarding points scoring. Now that is funny, at this moment in time I cant really remember what preference you have regarding Clive’s vessel. Giving the circumstances I believe Clive’s decision to be the best he could have made. Feel free to show me where I ever stated different and I will explain what I may have meant. I have no ill will against you or anyone else on this forum, however I must say that your idea of points scoring is something that I take no part in. Its obviously very important to you to bring it up. Perhaps you could enlighten me as to the current score? Regarding others on this forum helping me with the kellington? Who was that exactly. Apart from a source of plans no one has said anything to help here. Or perhaps you would like to point it out as I obviously missed it. As far as I was aware the only chat here has been general regarding the kellington. That was all that was expected and the only reason I posted the pictures. If you would like to enlighten everyone on the kellington feel free to do so. I am not in a position to able to speak openly at this time. Sorry if you were offended at me saying not to be silly.Im sorry if you have a problem with me, I dont have one with you. Edited by northeastuser

tramontana Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 April 2007 Status: Offline Points: 418	Post Options Post Reply Quote tramontana Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 September 2007 at 4:40pm
	Agreed

tramontana Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 April 2007 Status: Offline Points: 418	Post Options Post Reply Quote tramontana Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 September 2007 at 4:41pm
	Agreed pioneer

tramontana Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 April 2007 Status: Offline Points: 418	Post Options Post Reply Quote tramontana Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 September 2007 at 5:03pm
	pioneer, As I have previously stated I agree but you cannot expect members not to "fire back" when in a genuine attempt to help someone they are told "Don't be Silly" on an open forum when as you say there is a p. m. available.

northeastuser Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 10 June 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 446	Post Options Post Reply Quote northeastuser Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 September 2007 at 5:10pm
	I also agree with you Pioneer. From my point of view I encounter a few statements directed at me that could be taken several ways. Normally I will just assume the best was meant. However if someone makes a direct attack at me in public I will defend myself in public. All I can suggest is that you seriously consider banning all concerned. Myself also. Tremonton I am deeply sorry that things have turned out the way they have and that you feel the way that you do. I assure you that I hold you no ill will and have no problem with you or anyone else on this forum. You have my apology if I have caused you any discomfort or offence. If anything happens with the kellington or any other vessel than I have any involvement in then you are more than welcome to come aboard.

Pioneer Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Pioneer Joined: 07 December 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 675	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pioneer Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 September 2007 at 5:24pm
	As you all quite rightly understand - this is a Discussion Forum. I am sure that it is also understood that if comment is made that is taken exception too - when any misconception is explained - especially if given with an apology -that for most reasonable persons should be the end of that particular matter - however if the feathers are so ruffled that the apology will not suffice - then by all means continue with the discussion - but in the PM facilty. It is not in the interests of anyone, especially the BMPT site, to allow the continuance of a spat. Offensive posts WILL be removed
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northeastuser Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 10 June 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 446	Post Options Post Reply Quote northeastuser Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 September 2007 at 5:33pm
	The problem with removing offensive posts is that if you don’t get in there quick enough then any posts made in response are out of context and only serve to make the responding poster sound offensive. So then you end up removing them all and censoring a disagreement! I don't want your job!It must feel like your looking after a buch of kids at times Oh iv gone and confused myself now!