ML Medusa
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Forum Name: Where Are Those Boats Now
Forum Description: Tell everybody where those old boats are
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Printed Date: 26 March 2026 at 9:53pm
Topic: ML Medusa
Posted By: Pioneer
Subject: ML Medusa
Date Posted: 05 September 2006 at 5:50pm
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A couple of shots of the ongoing refurb of ML 'Medusa'. As you will know the vessel was awarded Lottery funding for this worthy project.


Both photo's courtesy of Les Brown
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Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 20 September 2006 at 9:12pm
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Another couple of shots of 'Medusa' under restoration courtesy of Les Brown


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Posted By: Asco
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 9:06pm
Whoever is doing this, Pioneer or Les Brown, congratulations well done fantastic keep up the good work.......you are what these boats need.
Briliant.
kind regards Tony
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Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 24 November 2006 at 9:46pm
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Hello Tony
I am afraid that I cannot take any plaudits for this restoration work.
Les Brown had visited the yard (with John Lambert) earlier this year and took a few snaps - I was given permission to place them on the site - so far I have not heard since how much further they are into this project - meanwhile here is another couple of shots taken the same day (courtesy Les Brown)


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Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 4:18pm
The driving force behind Medusa is Alan Watson. I'm sure that there are many people involved, all who should take great credit for the work being done. It's reassuring for all of us to see that there are still people who can make this happen. Well done to them all...
Medusa's site is: http://www.hmsmedusa.org.uk/
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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 25 November 2006 at 8:25pm
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Hello
Just seen the fantastic pictures of the work on Medusa, a very heartening site, I have had the pleasure of going aboard her a couple of times at the old BMPT site, a great welcome and dedicated team working then and now of course. I think she and Asco and all of you others working to save these coastal forces vessels are to be congratualted. I may shoot myself on the foot, but just a small point with Medusa, are there plans to upgrade the web-site? I look in from time to time, and no current pictures or words about the restoration, I of course understand that restoring the vessel is top priority, but a live site could be of benifit, perhaps with the addition of a donations section, as we have on the Medway Queen site just installed. Not saying a vast fortune may come, but could be of help. We are still to get final award of our grant and commence works, but still need to raise partnership funidng, and I am sure like Medusa, need to raise ongoing funds. Anyway, I wish you all the best, perhaps by arrangement I could come and see her,my companies Hythe Marina is close by I think!, and I look forward to the visit to Chatham mentioned in publicity for Medusa that I have seen, bear me in mind, as possible local contact if you wish,
John Kempton
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Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 26 November 2006 at 3:57pm
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Here are another couple of pictures - a little out of sequence as their showing a'dry' standing before the movement to the undercover restoration site


And of course this one has to be -'The Boss removing the boss' Removal of the Stb'd Prop
Courtesy of Pathfinder.
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Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 26 November 2006 at 7:14pm
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Hi John and Pioneer
Alan Watson who is spearheading the restoration has promised that once he has a spare moment he will update the website to encompass "all things HDML", in the meanwhile the survivors section is coming along in leaps and bounds with new photos and information from Phil Simons, Bob McDougall, my Dad and I.
Dad recently provided his HDML wiring schematic, possibly the only one in existence and this has proved invaluable, and a fuel consumption graph for an HDML with 8L3 Gardners. Also a spare bronze heat exchanger off an MFV which was rotten and had to be sunk at our "reef". We're working at getting them a set of fuel injectors we know of but can't get in touch with the guy.
As the annoying TV ad says, every little helps!
The donations section is a great idea, I don't know how far the £1M lottery grant will stretch but it has got to be a good start.
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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 27 November 2006 at 8:25am
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Hi Christain,
Thanks for the above, its great that you can offer such help to Medusa, quite understand re web-site, they certainly look very busy!, great shot of her on the slip. As you say, the lottery grant is a great start, but keeping things going is also the great challenge, though with the lottery grants, you usally need to prove you can sustain the the project, well, most "little" ones do, it seems the very large ones don't, if you get my meaning, think domes!. Any way, all the best for now,
John
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Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 27 November 2006 at 8:46am
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Another couple of shots of her on the slip at Hythe Yard before work began to get serious

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Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 27 November 2006 at 8:48am
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This picture followed on from the previous page.
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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 27 November 2006 at 11:18am
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Hello again,
Just curious, was she then picked up by crane and placed undercover?, it appears from the photos the slip way crade only goes so far on the rails,
John
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Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 27 November 2006 at 11:50am
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Hello John
This shot shows that a purpose built shed was built around her. Must have taken a slice out of the grant
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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 27 November 2006 at 4:21pm
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Hi Richard,
Many thanks for that, appears they did lift her clear of the cradle, as you say, putting up the shed must have cost a few pennies, pity there was no slipway with a shed already, very nice new one at Newsons yard, but in Lowestoft unfortunatley. Still, the main thing is she is being restored and as I said, we can all look forward to seeing her again post re-fit.
John
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Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 27 November 2006 at 4:31pm
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Hello again John
I think that if you look carefully there are rails of some sort right up and into that shed - I am not sure though - maybe someone can enlighten us?
Ted
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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 27 November 2006 at 7:08pm
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Hi Ted,
Yes see what you mean, won't post further on this myself, not that important!
John
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Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 28 November 2006 at 12:50pm
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To try and get back into some sort of sequence - here is an early shot of Medusa in the purpose built Shed with Decks stripped out.

and Engines removed

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Posted By: northeastuser
Date Posted: 28 November 2006 at 1:59pm
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wow, she is having a lot of work done.Anyone know how long the aplication to the lottery took?
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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 28 November 2006 at 5:21pm
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Hello all,
Fantastic pictures as ever, what a major re-fit! though we at Medway Queen can talk, we are looking at a complete new hull. I can only imagine the lottery process took a long time, ours was on our third attempt, about two years in total by the time of our stage one pass in June and in fact today I got a call to confirm we have passed stage two and we will now move to sign a contract with the HLF.
John
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Posted By: medusa
Date Posted: 28 December 2006 at 11:24am
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Christmas has given me a couple of days breathing space so I have added a bit to the Medusa website with a few pictures showing the project progress. I still have a lot of info to put on the site but will have to replace my PC before I can do much more.
To answer a couple of questions, first we hauled Medusa up as far as she would go and had to extend one of the rails, however she is still on the cradle and was not lifted. The tin shed was then built around her. The grant process took just over two years, not including the project planning rant (PPG). Once work starts you have to be able to fund approx two months cash flow from your own resources as HLF pay in retrospect, this came as a nasty surprise to us!
Alan
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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 8:24am
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Hi Alan,
Great to see the above, many thanks for the information, very interested to read about the grant process, particuarly the bit about the two months money! we at Medway Queen better watch out for that one as well. Understand re site, work on the vessel herself most important of course, all the best to you and the team, look forward to seeing her up and running in due course.
Regards
John
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Posted By: medusa
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:01am
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Hi John,
as this will be relevant to all on this forum, I will set out how our HLF grant worked. Our grant was for £1m which we had to match fund to the tune of £100K, made up of part cash and part costed volunteer effort. This means that HLF are contributing just under 90% of the total.
At intervals of our choosing (we do it monthly) we submit a claim to HLF, this includes costed volunteer labour and invoices (they do not like pro forma invoices and are wary of stage payments). HLF then pay 90% of this claim with a turnround time averaging 4 weeks.
This continues until they have paid a total of 90% of their grant (ie in our case £900K of the £1m). They retain the final £100K until the project is signed off as complete.
To make it all work you therefore need approx 2 months cash flow in the bank before you start and a means of covering the gap between the final payment and project completion.
I'm sure this was all in the small print somewhere but I did not spot it and have had to do a bit of financial footwork to make it all balance. I have yet to work out how to cover the final £100K before project completion.
If anyone wants more detail on this I am happy to discuss/advise
Alan
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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 29 December 2006 at 2:48pm
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Hi Alan,
Very many thanks for the above, as I said, we to will be doing something very similiare in the not to distant future, and your warning on funding is much appreciated. We are in the midst of trying to rasise more partnership funding before we start. Although it's great to get the award, it dose not mean the end of your troubles! as I can see. Thanks again and best of luck for the future,
John
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