Another one starting at £500 on Ebay
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Forum Description: Discussion on Seaplane Tenders
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Topic: Another one starting at £500 on Ebay
Posted By: dgray
Subject: Another one starting at £500 on Ebay
Date Posted: 16 September 2006 at 8:30pm
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Another Seaplane tender on ebay in Bristol. I've asked for more info from vendor. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1 90010750794 Cheers Don ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
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Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 18 September 2006 at 2:34pm
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Hi Don Your link comes up as WW2 Fairmile minelayer. Has the ST been removed? Could be Swift ex ST 445 in Bristol. Regards,Christian. |
Posted By: Alex
Date Posted: 18 September 2006 at 4:09pm
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Hi folks,
I'm new to the forum and not so good with computers, better with spanners and engines so you might have to bear with me a bit slow. However, Jamaican moon, the minelayer is not far from me in St Osyth so I might go and have a look this weekend. I've tried to call the vendor but apparently he's taken his phone swimming! Anyone know anything about her? Alex. |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 18 September 2006 at 4:24pm
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Hi Christian, Sorry, don't know what happened with the link. Try these links below or type "historic rescue" in the ebay search box. http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?from=R40&sati tle=historic+rescue http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HISTORIC-WW2-R-A-F-AIR-SEA-RESCUE-BOAT _W0QQitemZ250028909270QQihZ015QQcategoryZ1296QQssPageNameZWD VWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting Cheers Don ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 18 September 2006 at 4:29pm
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Hi Alex Jamaican Moon was ML 357, built in 1942 in Egypt by Anglo-American Tourist Co. She is now in a good original state considering her age but is not considered seaworthy.Boats of her flotilla are mentioned in "Inshore Heroes" as the minesweepers for the Elba invasion preparations. If you're going that way, please take some snaps of her, the Ham Class IMS alongside her and also the 68ft Target Tower (a Hants and Dorset) called Calypso which should be closeby too.My e-mail address to send full-size pics to is Thanks, Christian. |
Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 18 September 2006 at 4:36pm
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Hi Don Thanks for that, historic rescue works fine. She doesn't look as though she is the Swift, will try to find out ID. Certainly looks like a broad-beam even though the beam mentioned implies narrow-beam,what do you think? Regards, Christian. |
Posted By: Alex
Date Posted: 18 September 2006 at 4:43pm
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Christian,
With luck I'll have an afternoon to myself in that neck of the woods next weekend so I'll liberate the girlfriend's camera for a while and see what I can get. Alex. |
Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 18 September 2006 at 5:39pm
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Alex-that's great, to help Calypso identification here is a picture from a while back when she was called Pentalina;
Courtesy of Ron Young. Regards,Christian. |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 20 September 2006 at 7:33pm
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Hi Christian, The ST on ebay is likely to be Swift as the yard man says it's been around Bristol for years. Is anything known about her service record? My wife would have kittens if I brought another ST home. The chap in the yard paced out the measurements so I'm not sure what her dimensions are. Regards Don |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 20 September 2006 at 7:35pm
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Was she a BPB boat? Did Vospers or Thornycroft make ST's durunbg the war? Cheers Don |
Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 21 September 2006 at 12:15am
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Hi Don Yes, she is a BPB, as is Swift but they have very different upperworks, Swift being almost totally original. I think it's a different boat. Vosper and Thornycroft did build STs too, but not many (Vosper only 2 I think). You can tell a BPB by the hull shape fwd and rudders if they're original;
Quite unique! |
Posted By: trevera25
Date Posted: 21 September 2006 at 11:34am
| Has anyone managed to go and look her over yet , the auction has ended with no bidders and I've asked the seller for some extra time but unless someone is close enough to look her over it looks like she's going to be firewood soon |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 21 September 2006 at 1:00pm
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I spoke to Kev and asked him a few questions about her. He didn't know much. Another sale in lieu of fees. He said that he'd find out about lift costs and when she would have to be moved etc. She's a big project but looks worth it. Well worth a visit. He said he'd call me this week with more info. I'll post it when he does. ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: trevera25
Date Posted: 21 September 2006 at 1:05pm
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Hi Don Let me know how you get on , anymore info about the one at West Mersea ? Cheers Dave ------------- Check out www.sailroom.co.uk the auction site for the marine minded folk |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 21 September 2006 at 1:12pm
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I'm not interested in owning her...Are you? Re West Mersea, not a dickie from anyone (other than yourself) with any offer of help including the relevant associations. Mind you they are getting a lot older so I don't blame them one little bit. Duxford/Imperial War Museum assured me that they wouldn't be having any more boats aft Duxford. Too much to do on my own I fear. A real shame but apathy rules. Regards Don ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: trevera25
Date Posted: 21 September 2006 at 2:34pm
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I know all about the 'Apathy Rules' situation , it's a shame though
This one at least is in better nick . If someone was closer and could take a proper look I might be able to save her from the chainsaw , but still waiting to hear from the owner ------------- Check out www.sailroom.co.uk the auction site for the marine minded folk |
Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 21 September 2006 at 3:49pm
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She IS the Swift, ex ST 445.The above pictures are from Ron Young's collection, the top photo from 20 years ago at Burlesdon and the lower two from 10 years ago at Bristol Docks. How sad she is in such a state now. Regards,Christian. |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 21 September 2006 at 5:14pm
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Hi Christian, You are right, it's a crying shame. Thanks for the photos. Do you know anything about her service life. Was she ASR and is sge a 41'6" or 37.5' Cheers Don ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 21 September 2006 at 5:21pm
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Hi Don Certainly a broad-beam 41.5ft boat, will look her up over the w/e as Dad has all the good books at his place ! Watched the video For Those In Peril again, can't get over the superb footage, thanks again. Best Regards,Christian. |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 21 September 2006 at 5:26pm
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Thanks Christian, Well I still feel like a heel re '32. Sale fell through on my Benetti again so I'm still stuck. Maybe a Derby class would be the best thing for me as they aren't so big. Blue Peter type. Humorist is on at £35k but that is a bit rich for me. Cheers Don ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: trevera25
Date Posted: 21 September 2006 at 6:21pm
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Hi Christian If you can let me know what state shes in , I may be interested in trying to save her , although I think the price asked was a bit steep for a historic vessel in need of loads of work . If the other option is to scrap her , would he rather just let her go Cheers Dave ------------- Check out www.sailroom.co.uk the auction site for the marine minded folk |
Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 21 September 2006 at 7:00pm
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Sorry Dave, I'm not in touch with anyone with that information, personally I couldn't agree more- certainly worth a try. Good luck! Christian. |
Posted By: trevera25
Date Posted: 22 September 2006 at 3:08am
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Sorry , I didn't read your post properly , I'll see if I can find someone that can take a look for me Cheers Dave ------------- Check out www.sailroom.co.uk the auction site for the marine minded folk |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 22 September 2006 at 11:56am
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Hi Christian, RE the St in Bristol. Is that an RDF ariel in the top photo? If tes, would that possibly make her an ASR boat? If you have a better photo of her, I'd love to see it. Regards Don ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 22 September 2006 at 6:41pm
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Hi Dave, FYI, I spoke to Kev today about the ST. Said 2-3 people were coming to see her this weekend. One is a friend of owner of 'Gay Archer' and, if he gets her, plans to take her down there, restore her and show her beside Gay Archer. Of course he may not buy it but I thought you'd want to know. Cheers Don
------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: trevera25
Date Posted: 22 September 2006 at 9:34pm
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Hi Don Thanks for that , sounds promising but can you keep me updated please , if they don't go for her I might just have to Cheers Dave ------------- Check out www.sailroom.co.uk the auction site for the marine minded folk |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 03 October 2006 at 12:13am
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Re ST445/Swift A local group have bought her to restore to service condition I've been told. Excellent news. ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 03 October 2006 at 12:15am
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I've been told that a few Seaplane Tenders were involved with the Canadian raid on Dieppe. Does anyone know which craft were involved? Thanks Don |
Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 03 October 2006 at 8:13am
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Swift ex ST 445 full-size picture. Thanks again Ron. Regards,Christian. |
Posted By: trevera25
Date Posted: 03 October 2006 at 9:21am
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Excellent news Don , that's one more saved anyway Dave ------------- Check out www.sailroom.co.uk the auction site for the marine minded folk |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 07 October 2006 at 12:53pm
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Hi, Does anyone know which Seaplane Tenders were involved with the Canadian raid on Dieppe. Cheers Don ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |