BPB Yard Number 1762
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Forum Description: Discussion on Seaplane Tenders
URL: http://www.bmpt.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=367
Printed Date: 26 March 2026 at 2:50pm
Topic: BPB Yard Number 1762
Posted By: dgray
Subject: BPB Yard Number 1762
Date Posted: 06 June 2007 at 5:18pm
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Hi Had the boat (fomerly known as ) "Che Sera" delivered here today. Found the yard number 1762 on a few timbers. Anyone know her service number from this..... Thanks Don |
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Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 06 June 2007 at 6:19pm
| Sorry Don, Fast Boats And Flying Boats gives the first (Oct 1940-Sept 1941) 41ft6" STs as batch ST 357-366 but no yard numbers are given. The second batch during the same period were ST 436-439, with yard numbers 1846-1849. I think it is therefore a safe guess to say she was one of the 357-366 batch, but which one. Perhaps rafwebfoot will know? |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 06 June 2007 at 6:24pm
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Thanks Christian, I hope you can help Donald! I'll get pictures of her up tomorrow. Hull not too bad at all. The caravan on top, I'll replace. ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 06 June 2007 at 9:12pm
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Don't despair, ST 358 from the same batch was identified somehow, if her yard number is known yours can be identified from that presumably. Congratulations on your new family member anyway! Even better she may be from the first batch, I can't wait to find out her history! ST 358; http://www.nhsc.org.uk/index.cfm/event/getVessel/vref/1229 - http://www.nhsc.org.uk/index.cfm/event/getVessel/vref/1229 |
Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 07 June 2007 at 12:03pm
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Don, Philip Simons says the following;
If Don has found 1762, then that makes her Seaplane Tender ST 365 |
Posted By: rozm2
Date Posted: 07 June 2007 at 6:52pm
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Congratulations Don on the lastest addition to the fleet, I feel sure you'll do her justice, I'll be interested to see the photos.
Does anyone know any more about 358, her present wherabouts, she looks like she could do with some TLC in the photo, I'm really warming to the little ST's, must try to get an HDML first though! |
Christian wrote:Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 07 June 2007 at 9:43pm
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Thanks Christian/Philip. Very much appreciated. Donald (RAFWebfoot) has sent some more data: "She was RAF. 365 a Mk.1 type on charge with the RAF on 12/07/1941. Converted to an RSL in the 1950s and struck off charge 16/01/1957. She as for sale at No. 1112 MCU Tayport in Feb. 1957." I've put a few photos at: www.rania.co.uk/ST365 Thanks Donald for the info. ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 07 June 2007 at 10:30pm
| Looks good Don, hull timbers seem fair. Your 32 footer is looking superb! Have you found any service pictures of 365 yet? A new name? Yedaysar is my first goofy suggestion for 365 days in a year. |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 07 June 2007 at 11:17pm
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Hi Christian, Frames are good - about 30 yards of planking to change. Just wave damage to unpainted timber over years really. They added a keel/beaching legs at some stage that I'll probably leave on her. She's huge compared to the '32 tender. Funnily enough I was removing a section of rubbing strake from the 32' and the hull is painted black underneath ( original rubbing strake from what I can tell). I expected that, like most boats of the time, she was seconded for the duration but black paint topsides under the rubbing strake seems curious. I think I've got a brace of 4236's/Borg Warner boxes for the 32'. Cheers ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: northeastuser
Date Posted: 07 June 2007 at 11:41pm
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Looking good Don, quite a nice collection there. Have to say I like the look of those beaching legs. Wonder if they will help keep her running in a straight line. Perhaps even make her faster? ------------- |
Posted By: Christian
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 9:23am
| Don, from the photo the wheelhouse addition seems to have good quality windows, can you re-use them (turned upside-down) on the replica original? They look about the right size. It also looks generally in good shape, if you don't re-use the windows, and cut it off in one piece, you may be able sell it on e-bay for someone else's project! |
Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 11:10am
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Hi Don, Nice hoist! looks like a travel hoist without the engine or hydraulics to go wrong, a gantry and slings must be by far the best way to lift a wooden boat, well done! ------------- masbie something in the water. www.freewebs.com/masb32/ |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 12:21pm
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Hi Christian, I'll try to get the cabin off in one piect. The only thing I need from it is the Kent screen. I haven't checked exactly but it seems that only the 8 oval cabin side windows will work. They are about 2 inches longer than the originals but I think I'll have to use them as I've nothing else. She's missing a lot Props, engines/boxes, wheel and pretty much all original fittings. I'll have to go to a boatjumble. Anyone know of a good one? Regards ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 08 June 2007 at 12:35pm
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Thanks Clive. Took a month to build but will eventually be dismantled and part of the barn we'll build. ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 11 June 2007 at 3:13pm
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Anyone know what props are needed for a 41'6" widebeam ST? Thanks ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 11 June 2007 at 5:26pm
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Hi Don, props all depend on what HP your engines hav and also wether you have reduction 'boxes. another factor is how much room you have to swing a propellor before you hit the bottom of the boat. ------------- masbie something in the water. www.freewebs.com/masb32/ |
Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 11 June 2007 at 5:31pm
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Hello again, the ST on ebay (Robert) has 140HP driving 16X16 props, it does not say what 'boxes she has and she is 39feet which would not make much difference. ------------- masbie something in the water. www.freewebs.com/masb32/ |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 11 June 2007 at 6:51pm
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Thanks Clive... I was thinking of getting some S6m's but they are thin on the ground and mostly clapped out by now. I was wondering what the original props/boxes were. I have a brace of Ford 6 Cyl Turbo Diesels that should be about right and they have "selfchanging" gearboxes fitted. I'll look and see if the ratio is mentioned under the rust. Cheers ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 21 November 2007 at 5:28pm
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Hi All, Bought a Bedford QLB to tow the little ST around (subject to Health and Safety, DVLA licensing, the phase of the moon, blah, blah) next summer. Well that's the plan anyway. The long and the short of it is that ST365 ( EX-ASR) is available to a good home for a break-even cost or a trade. I bought her to save her as the owner was going to burn her (see this forum). I haven't the time to do her up and it's a shame to see her just sitting there. I've got a pair of Ford 160+ HP TD engines/boxes that were running takeouts and in good condition. Turbos might need rebuilding but they are easy to come by. Would trade up/down for a '39-'45 MOD vehicle or bike. Maybe a working mini-digger. I'm kind of interested in getting a DUKW or anything ambhibious and have a completely restored M21 and an original BSA A7 to add to the trade if interested. If sold, I'll make a donation to BMPT. She's on Milweb too It's a great chance to get your own boat.... I'l load her onto your trailer free! Give me a call on 01842 829000 or pm me. Cheers Don |
Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 21 November 2007 at 6:57pm
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Hi Don,
Quite a collection! if you are down south ie on the Medway do get in touch, we don't have a slipway at Chatham Marina but I know where one is!.
JohnK |
Posted By: andyht57
Date Posted: 24 November 2007 at 10:59pm
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Hi Don
How much do you want for the ST 365 and where abouts are you? Andy ------------- Andy T |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 07 December 2007 at 12:05pm
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Hi Andy, Sorry the delay in answering you. I honestly thought I had. If you're still interested, give me a call. I'll pm my number to you. Regards Don ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 05 October 2008 at 11:02am
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Hi All, Looking for a good home for ST365. No engines/props but very sound. Will trade pretty much anything for her as I need the space. PM me please. Thanks ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 15 February 2010 at 4:58pm
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Hi All, I have an incomplete set of drawings for a BPB widebeam Seaplane tender. They were by John Pritchard. I need to order a new set of A0 drawings but cannot find where to order them. The model shops online only do A3 which isn't good enough for a 1:1 scale model (with my eyesight anyway). I've ordered the A3 set as a backup but does anyone know where I can but a set of A0 ones? Thanks Don ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 15 February 2010 at 5:53pm
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Hi Don,
I thought you had a set of drawings for HSL 145 and the ST, the ST were the BPB copies from Grenwich which were in your garage, could you not a model from them? ------------- masbie something in the water. www.freewebs.com/masb32/ |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 15 February 2010 at 11:28pm
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Hi Clive, Thanks, those are the now "incomplete" A0 drawings. Somehow, the drawings of the cab/side are missing... I'll get back on to Greenwich. Thanks for the memory jog!! Cheers Don ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 16 February 2010 at 12:22pm
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The drawings arrived from www.myhobbystore.co.uk in this morning's post. Instead of A3 as promised they were the full A0 size and consist of 4 pages. Has anyone got drawings from the Maritime museum in Greenwich? Just wondering if they have original BPB Co drawings? Loads of other drawings at: http://www.myhobbystore.co.uk/ Cheers ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: dgray
Date Posted: 16 February 2010 at 12:23pm
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Clive: Masb at 1:24 scale. http://www.myhobbystore.co.uk/product/16741/63ft-motor-anti-mm1394 ------------- Don Only a number, not even a name. How shall posterity hear of thy fame? |
Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 16 February 2010 at 12:58pm
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Hi Don,
Thanks for that, I do have a set of model drawings, I had trouble getting copies of the original build plans for me to make a 'proper' Wheelhouse for '32, I thought I would just get copies of HSL 145 plans and build t to the profile of the MASB.
All the best, Clive. ------------- masbie something in the water. www.freewebs.com/masb32/ |