ST at Canvey Island
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Printed Date: 26 March 2026 at 9:53pm
Topic: ST at Canvey Island
Posted By: marksaab
Subject: ST at Canvey Island
Date Posted: 17 January 2010 at 7:39pm
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Saw this ST at Dauntless Boatyard today. She had a bit of makeover! Couldnt see any ID indications, any ideas? She is being fitted out as a liveaboard. The hull has been glassed over and some windows fitted, actually the quality of the work looks ok, shafts still fitted. Bit sad to see of course but at least she is going to provide someone with a home!     ------------- Only yield when you must, never "give up the ship," but fight on to the last "with a stiff upper lip!" |
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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 18 January 2010 at 8:23am
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Hi Mark,
Yes, agree, but as you say, still providing a service to someone! cosy for one or two I guess, dose not look to bad as you say. See latest Ship's Monthly has a piece in preservation section about MGB 81 and HSL 102 now at Portsmouth, and latest historic boat section of the dockyard newsletter says they are fitting shore power cable and emergency bilge pums to them, also need to work out training to be able to man them, regret a little to far away to participate myself, but perhaps might attract more people to run these vessels, albeit of course a lot more work to do in this and upkeep, hope they can manage it of course.
Johnk
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Posted By: Whitelady
Date Posted: 19 January 2010 at 12:42am
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yuck what is it with liveaboards having to look like a hull with a shed on top.
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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 19 January 2010 at 7:46am
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Yes,it dose seem to be the way, guess really to provide the room to liveaboard, had a shed on the boat I used to own, but was not an historic craft by any means.
Johnk
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Posted By: Whitelady
Date Posted: 20 January 2010 at 12:59am
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White Lady is more than roomy enough for a liveaboard, yet does not look like a reject from homebase.
------------- You don't own a boat, a boat owns you. |
Posted By: phil
Date Posted: 20 January 2010 at 10:38am
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just like to say that due to the restoration process on these two vessels the up keep is no different to a modern boat ! Anodes , antifoul , keep the brightwork up together and maintain the machinery. All that they need is competent people involved.
The addition of emergency bilge pumps is totally unecessary |
Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 20 January 2010 at 7:34pm
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Ah, that is interesting Phil, would have thought that the vessels would already have bilge pumps fitted, hm, just thinking about the vessels in our marina at Chatham, guess really most are now plastic so save a skin fitting failure or shaft or leg problem....as per ther PNBPT news letter here on the site, they are looking at training and operation, hope they can manage it and keep them running, not sure how many of them there are, I am a member post BMPT but a little to far and tied up with the Medway Queen paddler to be of any use,
Johnk
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Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 20 January 2010 at 10:35pm
If the owner of this boat was a forum member would you be as rude about his efforts to build a home?
you must remember that these boats originally were much different inside than yours as they were built to do different jobs and without his effort there would perhaps be one less ST to restore in the future.
All of the remaining HSL MGB MTBs etc have been live aboards at some time, I doubt they would be here if it was not the case.
I hope you dont mind me pointing this out, and I have not come across as being rude myself  ------------- masbie something in the water. www.freewebs.com/masb32/ |
Whitelady wrote:Posted By: phil
Date Posted: 21 January 2010 at 9:54am
| well having restored 102 and having had it coded to take out the public in my ownership i can asure you that they are !! |
Posted By: phil
Date Posted: 21 January 2010 at 10:17am
| totally agree with you, when i found hsl 102 she was in a similar way , mgb 81 spent many years as a clubhouse for cadets and Raf 206 was going to be used as a cold frame to grow tomatoes . All 3 boats were being preserved in one way or another . Now restored to their former glory the public can appreciate them . 102 is a core collection vessel , 81 is the only restored gunboat from the last war and 206 has gone from cold frame to exhibit in a national museum . Unfortunately there are too many people out there who do an awful lot of talking and little else! bit like an organisation i once knew ! |
Posted By: marksaab
Date Posted: 21 January 2010 at 7:11pm
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Hi Phil Exactly my sentiments, although if I'd done it I would have made the windows bigger! To my untrained eye the hull looked ok and although glassing it over may not be ideal I'm guessing it will help with long term protection, and then who's to say that sometime in the future the owner may decide to make her a working boat again. I mentioned in a few other posts that boats need a use, military, "commercial" i.e. Midnight Trader style! housing etc or they simply fade away. BTW do you have any clue about the RTTL post I added recently? Cheers Mark ------------- Only yield when you must, never "give up the ship," but fight on to the last "with a stiff upper lip!" |
Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 21 January 2010 at 9:01pm
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Hi Mark,
Yes, you have hit the proverbial, without some use of some kind they will mostly just rot away, glassing, well will leave that one! some have, some have not, and some would not in a million years! if done to the very highest standard from the very start, perhaps will exstend the life of the vessel when otherwise it would go, any way said I would not get into, sorry nothing on the RTTL,
Johnk
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Posted By: Whitelady
Date Posted: 31 January 2010 at 1:26am
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Clive, I do not have fault with the owner wanting to turn it into a liveaboard. I do not have fault with the owner doing it... All I point out is it does not hurt much to make a vessel slightly more atractive. Different windows, the framework being internal and a different hull colour would make her look so much better. ------------- You don't own a boat, a boat owns you. |
Posted By: clive
Date Posted: 31 January 2010 at 10:18am
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Thats fair enough,
Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder.
Big windows may make the cabin cold? ------------- masbie something in the water. www.freewebs.com/masb32/ |
Posted By: Whitelady
Date Posted: 01 February 2010 at 12:36am
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that is true definately so on WL, but a trade off for wonderfully light and airy saloon in day time.
------------- You don't own a boat, a boat owns you. |