New Fairmile "D" build
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URL: http://www.bmpt.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=818
Printed Date: 26 March 2026 at 7:55pm
Topic: New Fairmile "D" build
Posted By: ForumManager
Subject: New Fairmile "D" build
Date Posted: 19 December 2011 at 4:18pm
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According to the Newsletter December 2011 from the London Branch of the former CFVA, there are now serious plans to construct a new Fairmile "D". The preliminary proposal can be seen within http://cfv.org.uk/veterans/newsletter/london-branch-december-2011 - http://cfv.org.uk/veterans/newsletter/london-branch-december-2011 Interesting to note that it is planned under the auspicies of the Federation of Naval Associations with a suggestion of having a future 'Memorial Naval Squadron'. ------------- Forum Manager |
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Posted By: Roger P
Date Posted: 19 December 2011 at 8:36pm
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This is absolutely awesome news and I note the article tells some of the story of MTB 781. I am doing a model (1/144th scale) of a dog boat in the future and I think it most appropriate I now do it as MTB 781. I also noted that 781's skipper also served on ML 145 which rammed and sank the S-96, I'm also doing 145 in her early war weapons fit. ------------- Roger Pearson. Bendigo, Victoria, Australia. "Roger's Little Ships". Modelling Allied Light Coastal Forces 1914-1945. |
Posted By: Pioneer
Date Posted: 19 December 2011 at 10:03pm
Errrm - 718 Roger  ------------- Pioneer - Forum Moderator |
Posted By: Roger P
Date Posted: 19 December 2011 at 10:33pm
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Oooooops, damn my dislexic fingers. ------------- Roger Pearson. Bendigo, Victoria, Australia. "Roger's Little Ships". Modelling Allied Light Coastal Forces 1914-1945. |
Posted By: phil
Date Posted: 20 December 2011 at 8:25am
| A new fairmile D! In their dreams . Coastal forces have spent the last twenty five years trying to save a fairmile and failed , so to build one from scratch is even more far fetched . good luck ! |
Posted By: ForumManager
Date Posted: 20 December 2011 at 8:40am
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Who are these 'Coastal forces' that you mention Phil?? ------------- Forum Manager |
Posted By: phil
Date Posted: 20 December 2011 at 8:55am
| the coastal forces veteran association and the coastal forces heritage trust . I hope they ve got a good sponsor like S130 has |
Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 20 December 2011 at 8:55am
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Hi there,
Noted last re the proposed project for 718, well, I think a lot of people have said to be honest, most marine hertiage projects were far fetched, impossible, waste of time and perhaps money, but to have such a vessel to join the others we are so lucky to have, MTB 102 HDML Medusa, 81 etc would be fantastic. We have the example from railways of Tornado, a locomotive completly built from scratch, to origional plans, if railways can....
Johnk
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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 20 December 2011 at 8:58am
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Me again,
Also noted last from Phil there, indeed have mentioned before re S130, appreciate views that it is a German vessel and was used against us of course, but ironic such a vessel is being restored here and yet we do not have our own vessel any more, our record here on maritme preservation as I say, has some fantastic achievments but also some terrible losses which need not have been.
Johnk
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Posted By: ForumManager
Date Posted: 20 December 2011 at 9:36am
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My understanding Phil, is that this project has nothing to do with the CF Heritage Trust or the former CFVA. A Mr P Webster (an invited guest, not a member) outlined the project at a recent London Branch meeting (of the former CFVA) and stated that this is to be a privately funded venture with a time scale spanning a few years. 'johnk' has mentioned the S130 project - the current standing with this project was a deciding factor evidently, in the decision to 'build new', as opposed to a refurb of any existing 'D' (if one could be found). The timbers within S130 are causing a serious (and costly) headache for that team, was also revealed to the meeting.Like yourself Phil, I can only wish this project the best of 'Good Luck' and hope that, like the Tornado project mentioned by johnk, this will turn out to be just as successful. ------------- Forum Manager |
Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 20 December 2011 at 11:04am
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Hi there,
Yes, that is a great summary of the situation, early early days and much work of course to do, the point re S130 very clear, I think great to see the work being done, skill etc, but....what a job, again I see this project as complimentary to what we already have, many thanks,
Johnk
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Posted By: phil
Date Posted: 20 December 2011 at 2:56pm
| myself and my team bought s130 across the north sea from wilhemshaven on her own bottom , she was in pretty good shape otherwise it wouldnt have been achievable. the main problem with her structure was the degrading of the metal framing in the aft end and its subsequent effect on the timber attached to it . The hull itself is pretty good as it was built far better than the D s . Im sure restoration of parts of the hull are relatively easy and a piddle in the ocean compared to the rest of the project. Something Kevin Wheatcroft wont be phased by |
Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 23 December 2011 at 10:20am
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Hi Phil,
Many thanks for that, see the Roving commissions site had a 22nd November update but could not see what it was! great footage ex Imperial war museum of the Fairmile construction, see the http://cfv.org.uk/ - RN CFV section of this site,
Johnk
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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 07 January 2012 at 9:46am
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Hi there,
Noted great update to my post re the link to RN CFV, works well! noted branch meeting postponed due to the walkway failure, further discussion of the D project idea at the Federation of Naval Associations meeting at Torquay in March,
Johnk
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Posted By: jimmy p
Date Posted: 16 January 2012 at 3:45am
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If they're serious about a dog is it worth them looking at the wrecked dog in chatham? May be half the chine planking & a keel thats useable. prob be as much original boat as the cutty sark is now & they're throwing millions at that. Theres a couple of spitfires out there made from an engine block & id plate that claim historic status so why not a dog?
Best of British to the 130 team. We have more working warboats than the Americans so why not balance it with a little kriegsmarine. besides they were fantastically built & engineered for their time. Although if any of Bob Hichens old flotilla are left they get my vote for restoration ------------- A boat is a hole in the water surrounded by wood, into which one throws money |
Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 16 January 2012 at 3:37pm
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Hi there,
Yes, not been back to her for a long time, so not sure what is still left!, yes you can in some cases get away with a lot not being origional, we all know the arguments, perhaps best if we do go ahead, have it as a full replical and have done, but as per all last, this is very early days and a lot to work out first,
Johnk
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Posted By: jimmy p
Date Posted: 18 January 2012 at 3:56am
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Just an idea. Could the pnbt use the bits of these boats as its a working museum? Maybe the side of 458 or similar lost cause mounted on side of a workshed, the chatham dog's nose on front of clubhouse, office ect. sure a use could be found without turning it into the disneyland of warboats. If chatham dog has no interest then i'll remove carcass and make desks from her(condition is one goes to admiralty), don't want to but it means some parts of the old girl will survive. my drawknives,chisels ect are in a chest made from a boat that i was forced to scrap.
Best of luck to a replica 'D'. The fairmiles were the original flatpack (much assembly required) but like many coastal forces warboats were 80% housewife built & 20% shipwright. If the right yard can be found, proper materials & workforce at right price then its def doable. If not we let down that generation as enjoying the advantages they never had. of course common sense in a workforce back then was a lot cheaper than the health & safety stasi forcing you to employ idiots & treat the rest of workforce the same. Thats my late night rant, Any chance a new Dog will get a pennant number? if its just for a week it only seems right. Best of British to the effort! ------------- A boat is a hole in the water surrounded by wood, into which one throws money |
Posted By: ForumManager
Date Posted: 18 October 2012 at 9:13pm
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Latest on the proposed build of a 'D' boat can be seen in the latest Veterans Newsletter, seen http://cfv.org.uk/veterans/newsletter/london-branch-october-2012 - Here
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Posted By: johnk
Date Posted: 19 October 2012 at 12:28pm
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Hi there, Many thanks for highlighting latest, project is evolving, but as before early days.....await news of how forum members might be able to contribute to costs of site...thanks again, Johnk
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