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Printed Date: 26 March 2026 at 4:17pm

Topic: Victory bros boats in late sixties Gibraltar

Posted By: Phill
Subject: Victory bros boats in late sixties Gibraltar
Date Posted: 22 August 2012 at 10:17pm

Does anybody know what the fast MTB/MGB type vessels that Victory brothers operated from Gibraltar in the late sixties were? Where they came from? went to?
Thanks,
Phill.

Replies:

Posted By: The Pom
Date Posted: 23 August 2012 at 5:36am

Hi Phil,

Below is a list of boats owned and used by the Victory Brothers in 1966/1977 as I remember them:

Lucky Lady, ex Swedish stepped aluminium hull powered by twp Packards

Luck Lizzy, as above.

Lucky Lassie, powered by two Kermuths

Joy Lady, I do not remember what powered her

Etosha, powered by three Packards

Dear Lady, powered by two Gardiners

Sea Angel, powered by three Chryslers

Ton Fran, a small freighter

Sharker, ex 40'seaplane tender (?) powered by two Perkins S6Ms

Blackjack, as above

Also operated out of Gibraltar:

Alcona, a freighter

Scarborough, 112' Fairmile, powered by two GMs and one Packard

Gay Bombadier, powered by three Packards

Grand Parade, powered by two Perkins S6Ms and one GM

Shandau, powered by two Caterpillars

Belvue, powered by two Rover (Gas turbines?) and one Packard

Our Janie, powered by two Perkins S6Ms

Fervent, 63' MASB now known as "32", powreed by three Perkins S6Ms

Bonanza, powered by three Dormans

Alibacuma, (112' Fairmile?) powered by two Paxmans and one Packard

Clarinda, powered by 2 8 cylinder Glennifers

My memory is not 100% accurate and many of the above details might not be 100% correct but I am sure that Christian will be able to correct the list where necessary and add what type of hull they were.

Cheers,

The Pom

p.s. I owned Fervent and worked with the Victory Brothers

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Peter W

Posted By: Phill
Date Posted: 23 August 2012 at 7:58am

Thanks Peter, I was hoping that someone would remember these boats. I am curious about Lucky Lady and Luck Lizzie (I presume that Lizzie was the later, sister ship replacement for Lucky Lady). Were they Bagglietto boats? I think that I remember Lizzie had the same three Packard as a Vospers boat that was they had at the time. Does anybody have photos of these boats?

Phill.

Posted By: Phill
Date Posted: 24 August 2012 at 10:13pm

Like Peter my memory is far from 100% but I had the idea that those two Swedish boats were a steel hull on an alumium alloy frame. I remember perforated H section alloy ribs inside the hull (I had to route cabling) and the edge of the deck was radiused down onto the hull. One of them had a row of small square patches welded over what I presumed to be holes from small automatic weapon fire. Does anybody know of their fate?

Posted By: Phill
Date Posted: 15 January 2013 at 9:52pm

Thanks to Christian, I believe that this is a sister to the two metal hulled boats that I am curious about,

http://www.hnsa.org/ships/t26.htm - http://www.hnsa.org/ships/t26.htm

http://www.navyradio.se/4d3de19c-0712-48e0-99ce-1b48fe7e3155-9.html - http://www.navyradio.se/4d3de19c-0712-48e0-99ce-1b48fe7e3155-9.html

Can anybody add anything regarding the history of this class?

Regards,

Phill.

Posted By: Phill
Date Posted: 28 March 2013 at 8:55am

I received the following details regarding the construction of these boats from Lennart Segestrom, the owner of T26

The two boats from Gibraltar were apparently T22 and T23

Hi Phill,

The boats were of Baglietto drawings but redrawn by Kockums for building in sheet steel of same way they build railroad cars.

Bottom was 2,5-3mm thick and side panels 1,5-2mm. To the sheets Z-profiles was spot welded and all beams was lighted with holes

everywhere and only the deck house and some interior was of alumina. The steel was of very high tension about 600 and therefore hade

a tendency of cracking in hard seas. You can see that on T 26. The complete hull only weight 11 metric tons.

Posted By: Phill
Date Posted: 05 July 2015 at 1:35pm

Can anybody add anything with reference to the history of these vessels? I have been told that one of them was scuttled, probably after hull damage made repair uneconomic.

Posted By: Lottie
Date Posted: 25 February 2016 at 9:06pm

Hi Pom,

I wonder if you knew or knew of my Dad - Philip Davies. He worked for the Victory brothers up until 1965, I think. He died when I was only 9 so I didn't hear many of the tales he surely had to tell. I wonder if anyone remembers him from the 60s? He was a keen amateur photographer and I have loads boat photos from those days.

Lottie

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Lottie

Posted By: Choco
Date Posted: 09 June 2023 at 12:47am

Unfortunately I do not have your answers but I reply because I met the Victory brothers in Gib when I was there having master mechanic CHARLIE WARD work on the engine (Gardner 8L3) of our MFV Ruby in the spring of 1974. They were very engaging gentlemen and I bought a radio receiver and transmitter from them before we set out for the Canaries. I lost track of Ruby in 1977 after cruising extensively in the Caribbean. We rebuilt her in Portugal, I stepped a mast on her and re-fitted a large deckhouse.

This is my first post here and I don't know if it is possible to add a photo. I would love to see her again before I check out. If you think you might have seen Ruby, please let me know, directly @ Dave Burns, davekwf@hotmail.com Tel: (305) 304 5990. Thank you

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Choco

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