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Hi all,

Just reading about education, indeed, no WW2 history taught when I was at school, but had relatives who were there and who had served post-war in the forces. However, now, it is being taught, we at the Medway Queen as part of our lottery application, have a programme of talks to schools, using properly checked people etc, and it is going great, talked to a whole school of 120 pupils the other day. I agree that we should get the story of coastal forces out there now, it can only help to keep the story of the contribution of these people to the fore.

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There is no doubt that this web site is one of the best things to come out of the Trust set up, however some of it's front page content appears to be causing confusion to newcomers and should be updated ie the Poole venture is no more and 102 is unfortunatly no longer part of the Trust it is a Privately owned vessel which  can be hired if  available. The Picture of 102 at the introduction is misleading as to which vessels the Trust currently own's.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Magic Fingers Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 November 2007 at 8:36pm

For several years it has annoyed me that HSL102 gets referred to as 102 as until it was restored MTB102 was referred to as 102. When HSL102 came on the scene we had to change the name of our trust to MTB102 Trust, change the bank account and all our literature to avoid confusion so can you all please use the full title of the HSL or I'll be looking for some torpedoes

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dgray Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 November 2007 at 10:25pm
Hi All,

Out of curiosity, have EISCA kept the two BMPT boats or are they being returned to BMPT (which boats were they)?  

I think you all at BMPT deserve a big pat on the back for all your unsung work  saving these craft.

Bloody well done.

Don

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Hi Don,

Thank you for the kind words, very much appreciated..

The July Newsletter shown on the front page will give you the information for which you ask, re the boats, Poole,EISCA etc.

Your point taken about getting some update onto certain parts of the site, will do.

We have just completed the AGM with some considerable success, 21 members and partners attended, and I will put the Directors report on the site next week.

More news re S130 about March next year. She is now privately owned.

S130 we have no further news from EISCA.

FMB43957 we are going for a new installation, as getting a 50+year old engine etc, particularly after our loses in the Hythe fire, with parts backup, will not be possible. In addition emmission control will in all probability mean the old engines cannot be used.

Thanks again.

Richard

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Interesting comment M.F. it was only a few months ago that the Navy News published a picture of H.S.L. 102 instead of M.T.B. 102 which was the subject of the article, it reminded me of the first Tall Ships out of Newcastle when the Port Control called "Jupiter" up and caused all sorts of confusion between the Warship "Jupiter" and the North Sea Ferry "Jupiter" which were both navigating the river at the same time . If it is upsetting you then I will pre-fix the number from now on to save confusion, you have enough on keeping M.T.B. 102  going without searching the Surplus Stores for Torpedoes, I know Beggers can,t be chooser's but I would be wary of fitting any fire damaged engine back into a boat, does it really matter, what really matters is that the engine fitted is reliable and therefore safe, whether it be a Cummings a M.A.N or a Volvo Penta fitted inside a cover in the F.M.B. and will not deter from the "look" of the boat and the work that has gone in it. As you are well aware Safety is No1 priority at all times even if it has to "breach" the original spec to satisfy it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Magic Fingers Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 November 2007 at 8:06pm

Thanks for that Tramontana. We have had the VHF problems as well.

I am in complete agreement re engines. It would take a lot of very technical info to convince me to use fire damaged blocks of any kind. Heat distortion is a "funny" thing but no laughing matter when you get problem after problem in use. Something modern and with slightly more power in the same space so it is not working flat out all the time has got to be better.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote johnk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 November 2007 at 8:46am

Very interested in the above, with know knowledge it would seem to me that a new installation on FMB Ark Royal would be the way to go, presuming we can get the funds of course! not wishing to teach re eggs but perhaps an engine supplier could "do a deal" in return for the publicity flowing from a working vessel. Of course it's nice to have orgional plant, but the flip side is sometimes reliablitiy and maintance issues. Vello 2 runs orgional plant, one engine completley the other re-built using parts ex similare model.  We will re-use orgional engine for Medway Queen, but different story as it is steam!.

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Excessive heat on a crankase which is in itself a load/torque bearing "Structure" can cause problems re-shaft alignment, the only other time the casting will reach above that temp  is when it is cast. The cure is to let the casting rest or de-stress which is why when you went past a foundry there were castings laid outside (it was not a problem with internal storage) in fact B.M.W. performance dept use to encourage it's employees to go outside and pee on it's racing crankcases. How's your boilers johnk are you planning to replace them? the last steam job I went on a month ago had "square" boilers. As far as sponsership is concerned some people were under the impression that the H.S.L. and certainly the M.G.B. were bought on behalf of the Trust and were owned by the Trust not privately owned as they turned out to be which gave the impression that the trust name was being used as a "Trojan Horse".

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote johnk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 November 2007 at 1:41pm

Hi Tramontana.

 

Indeed, we will be in the market for a new boiler at some stage, our old Scotch boiler was a bit of a beast and we would hope that a new one would be smaller and more efficient, but have not yet got to the stage of looking in depth at that topic, much more to do before, however we are undertaking new design work very shortly so perhaps this will come in to it quite soon ie in terms of weight in relation to the hull. Interesting re the MGB and the trust, do not know if that was the case, but in the past now of course, and I hope as mentioned before, perhaps something may come up regards ownership for the wider public.

 

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