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rafwebfoot
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Posted: 24 July 2007 at 4:51pm |
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Yes, I agree with you on the spreaders, I will dig out some lifting/slinging pics for RTTLs and Pinnaces and try to post them, if not I will e-mail direct |
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FAIR WINDS AND A FAVOURABLE TIDE
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Christian
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Posted: 24 July 2007 at 5:46pm |
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Donald's very fine photo showing HSL 2595 (now Adelheid) being lifted from a single point with only two slings, note how much care was taken to protect the chines (even when the boats were new) and to prevent the slings slipping aft. Note also the forward slings are positioned quite far forward, and that the slings are very short in comparison to those used on the MA/SB, making their lives even harder. |
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gibdan
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Posted: 24 July 2007 at 10:14pm |
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Hi Christian and all, the lifting straps were put in place by the loadmaster with the advice from the diver in the water who as far as i could guess were placed where the strongest beams on the hull were. He had already checked the whole hull underneath whilst the loadmaster checked from the inside. They didn't want to put the foward straps further foward as they thought that it would make the hull break in two. Hopefully Clive will get more expert info from them. PS, Christian if I would have known it was you taking the pics from the wharf I would have at least said hi. I was the fat fellow getting off the MASB32 onto the Blands launch and then onto the wharf meters away from you!!!!! regards, Daniel |
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gibdan
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Posted: 24 July 2007 at 10:29pm |
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Some pics: With TARIK at Marina Bay befre we set off Daniel Leaving the Marina with the Rock behind and again
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Posted: 24 July 2007 at 10:31pm |
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Her first lift Daniel |
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Posted: 24 July 2007 at 10:33pm |
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Posted: 24 July 2007 at 10:34pm |
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On deck Daniel |
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Christian
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Posted: 24 July 2007 at 10:52pm |
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Hi Daniel Based on what we've seen getting expert advice from them would indeed be hopeful. The diver was kept busy arguing with the deck crew who were trying to lead the yellow preventer slings over the rails rather than under them. He was doubting their parentage in two languages as far as I could make out. Having been in the business of lifting boats for the last 20 years I can pretty much spot a cock up when I see one. Sorry I didn't acknowledge you, it is a shame we've not met but at the time I was gobsmacked watching the scene unfold. |
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clive
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Posted: 25 July 2007 at 12:06am |
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those men on deck cant have read about the lifting accidents on this topic! seriously though it's probably not the brightest idea.. |
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masbie something in the water. www.freewebs.com/masb32/
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gibdan
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Posted: 25 July 2007 at 7:17am |
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Although I am no expert on lifts etc and I reserve judgement on the MASB lift I must agree with you Christian that some things didn't look right. Like I said before, there was a lot of discussion going on between the diver and the loadmaster during the first and second try and all I could hear them discussing was that moving the straps foward would have placed too much pressure on the hull and they feared it would break in two, but again I wouldnt like to comment much on the rights and wrongs as I have no experience in lifting or how to lift a boat out of the water! Would pre planning and maybe using a cradle instead would have been better? Daniel
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